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	<description>Technology is neither the problem nor the solution.</description>
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		<title>By: Katina Acree</title>
		<link>http://durandus.com/phaedrus/2006/08/29/on-the-classroom/#comment-10842</link>
		<dc:creator>Katina Acree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 00:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love online learning or distance education.  I can not wait to be out of the "classroom" setting.  This week I started my kids in their Facebook discussions.  I love this aspect of my class.  We pretend we are not in the same room and everything is online.  They try to ask me questions and I have to tell them this is an online discussion all questions must be posted in the discussion board.  Before the week was over they were reminding me that all communication had to be done in the discussion board.  I really like it and wish my district would allow me to teach many courses online.  

I agree that learning is about getting out of your comfort zone.  I think I learn more because I have to work harder for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love online learning or distance education.  I can not wait to be out of the &#8220;classroom&#8221; setting.  This week I started my kids in their Facebook discussions.  I love this aspect of my class.  We pretend we are not in the same room and everything is online.  They try to ask me questions and I have to tell them this is an online discussion all questions must be posted in the discussion board.  Before the week was over they were reminding me that all communication had to be done in the discussion board.  I really like it and wish my district would allow me to teach many courses online.  </p>
<p>I agree that learning is about getting out of your comfort zone.  I think I learn more because I have to work harder for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Latisha Howard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Latisha Howard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 01:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is easy to assume that learning only takes place in the classroom, but we have to get away from that way of thinking.  I have taken a good number of online classes, and many of these I got more from than a "traditional" classroom. Learning is about getting out of your comfort zone and discovering ways to solve problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is easy to assume that learning only takes place in the classroom, but we have to get away from that way of thinking.  I have taken a good number of online classes, and many of these I got more from than a &#8220;traditional&#8221; classroom. Learning is about getting out of your comfort zone and discovering ways to solve problems.</p>
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		<title>By: lowell</title>
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		<dc:creator>lowell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"We need to consider the different learning styles of our students and work to help each student learn accordingly."

Actually, this is a myth. There's no credible evidence that so-called learning styles exist. I know it's in the KY Educational Standards. It doesn't make it so. 

"A classroom is a scheduled way to bring students together for learning,"

This is also a myth. A classroom is a scheduled way to bring students together for TEACHING. It's a mistake to confuse those two goals. 

"I do think that most teachers probably follow this “tradition” because it is expected in their school and they don’t want disapproval from others."

Unfortunately, I think you nailed this one down pretty well. Especially, if by "others" you mean the administration who can deny a contract renewal. The other factor is that most teachers -- all levels -- teach the way they were taught.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We need to consider the different learning styles of our students and work to help each student learn accordingly.&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually, this is a myth. There&#8217;s no credible evidence that so-called learning styles exist. I know it&#8217;s in the KY Educational Standards. It doesn&#8217;t make it so. </p>
<p>&#8220;A classroom is a scheduled way to bring students together for learning,&#8221;</p>
<p>This is also a myth. A classroom is a scheduled way to bring students together for TEACHING. It&#8217;s a mistake to confuse those two goals. </p>
<p>&#8220;I do think that most teachers probably follow this “tradition” because it is expected in their school and they don’t want disapproval from others.&#8221;</p>
<p>Unfortunately, I think you nailed this one down pretty well. Especially, if by &#8220;others&#8221; you mean the administration who can deny a contract renewal. The other factor is that most teachers &#8212; all levels &#8212; teach the way they were taught.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim Clevinger</title>
		<link>http://durandus.com/phaedrus/2006/08/29/on-the-classroom/#comment-10797</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim Clevinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I definitely felt I was a novice skier looking down the bunny slope for the first time in this class, and I am sure that is how many teachers feel when they think about changing a traditional classroom from the quiet, manageable, teacher oriented atmosphere to the active, manageable, student oriented classroom.  I'm not saying to not have control over the classroom and have no teacher guidance, but to maintain control and give the students the chance to explore learning and take part in how they are educated.

Most of our students are taught in the classroom using the same styles of teaching.  I think that this is a drawback of the classroom.  As we know, children learn differently.  We need to consider the different learning styles of our students and work to help each student learn accordingly.  A classroom is a scheduled way to bring students together for learning, but if we are not teaching to the students needs is learning going to take place.  Whether we are all together in one room or not doesn't mean that learning will not occur.  An example is our online classes.  I am learning everyday from this class and my other online class even though I have not stepped foot in a physical classroom.  This proves the point that we don't need to congregate together at an appointed time for learning to take place.  We still have to stay on task, just as teachers in a classroom expect, but we have flexibility and are able to adapt things to our learning style.  

Are our classrooms today really producing the best environment for learning?  I would say that the typical classroom doesn't.  I think we are all following the "traditional" way of educating.  Students come in, sit down, and wait to learn.  This sounds really exciting!!!  It is no wonder our chidren feel the way they do about school.  However, I do think that most teachers probably follow this "tradition" because it is expected in their school and they don't want disapproval from others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I definitely felt I was a novice skier looking down the bunny slope for the first time in this class, and I am sure that is how many teachers feel when they think about changing a traditional classroom from the quiet, manageable, teacher oriented atmosphere to the active, manageable, student oriented classroom.  I&#8217;m not saying to not have control over the classroom and have no teacher guidance, but to maintain control and give the students the chance to explore learning and take part in how they are educated.</p>
<p>Most of our students are taught in the classroom using the same styles of teaching.  I think that this is a drawback of the classroom.  As we know, children learn differently.  We need to consider the different learning styles of our students and work to help each student learn accordingly.  A classroom is a scheduled way to bring students together for learning, but if we are not teaching to the students needs is learning going to take place.  Whether we are all together in one room or not doesn&#8217;t mean that learning will not occur.  An example is our online classes.  I am learning everyday from this class and my other online class even though I have not stepped foot in a physical classroom.  This proves the point that we don&#8217;t need to congregate together at an appointed time for learning to take place.  We still have to stay on task, just as teachers in a classroom expect, but we have flexibility and are able to adapt things to our learning style.  </p>
<p>Are our classrooms today really producing the best environment for learning?  I would say that the typical classroom doesn&#8217;t.  I think we are all following the &#8220;traditional&#8221; way of educating.  Students come in, sit down, and wait to learn.  This sounds really exciting!!!  It is no wonder our chidren feel the way they do about school.  However, I do think that most teachers probably follow this &#8220;tradition&#8221; because it is expected in their school and they don&#8217;t want disapproval from others.</p>
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		<title>By: monica</title>
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		<dc:creator>monica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 00:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, Shellae, how did your son get involved with KVHS.  I have a 7th grader who would like the opportunity to explore a subject he chooses ( I think).  

I am thinking that the discussion On The Classroom is still in a round-about way, a discussion about the reason for learning.  Are we teaching students because we know something that they need to know, and we are the best most efficient resource for the students to get this knowledge?  If so, then the 'traditional' idea of classroom instruction gets the job done.  We can disperse information through less traditional methods as well.  We can even do that in distance education courses.

Or, are we trying to teach children how to learn, and that there is a vast amount of 'stuff' to be explored.  The three r's are tools students can use to undertake learning.  As teachers, especially of early elementary students, we must figure out how to empower students with the basics of reading, writing, and arithmetic without quenching their innate desire to learn, to explore and understand their world.

As a fourth year teacher, I haven't found my groove yet.  I have the ideal of eager students engaged in learning in my mind.  I am still trying to mesh this with the expectations placed on me as a teacher to teach a very structured curriculum.  I consider myself a lover of learning for the sake of learning - I remember teachers who showed awe when they were teaching.  Their excitement about the subject was contagious, made me want to know more.  I want to give that gift to my students.  

The flexibility of distance learning provides so many resources and opportunities for students to engage in genuine, engaging learning experiences.  Even in this class, the voices of the people I am learning with are beginning to become distinct.  I know that this connection with other people is an opportunity to grow and learn.

In the real world, how do I avoid using the potential of technology only as a substitute for pen and paper, cookie cutter assignments?  How do I realisitically provide for the diverse needs of all the learners in my classrooom?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, Shellae, how did your son get involved with KVHS.  I have a 7th grader who would like the opportunity to explore a subject he chooses ( I think).  </p>
<p>I am thinking that the discussion On The Classroom is still in a round-about way, a discussion about the reason for learning.  Are we teaching students because we know something that they need to know, and we are the best most efficient resource for the students to get this knowledge?  If so, then the &#8216;traditional&#8217; idea of classroom instruction gets the job done.  We can disperse information through less traditional methods as well.  We can even do that in distance education courses.</p>
<p>Or, are we trying to teach children how to learn, and that there is a vast amount of &#8217;stuff&#8217; to be explored.  The three r&#8217;s are tools students can use to undertake learning.  As teachers, especially of early elementary students, we must figure out how to empower students with the basics of reading, writing, and arithmetic without quenching their innate desire to learn, to explore and understand their world.</p>
<p>As a fourth year teacher, I haven&#8217;t found my groove yet.  I have the ideal of eager students engaged in learning in my mind.  I am still trying to mesh this with the expectations placed on me as a teacher to teach a very structured curriculum.  I consider myself a lover of learning for the sake of learning - I remember teachers who showed awe when they were teaching.  Their excitement about the subject was contagious, made me want to know more.  I want to give that gift to my students.  </p>
<p>The flexibility of distance learning provides so many resources and opportunities for students to engage in genuine, engaging learning experiences.  Even in this class, the voices of the people I am learning with are beginning to become distinct.  I know that this connection with other people is an opportunity to grow and learn.</p>
<p>In the real world, how do I avoid using the potential of technology only as a substitute for pen and paper, cookie cutter assignments?  How do I realisitically provide for the diverse needs of all the learners in my classrooom?</p>
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		<title>By: Jenny O'Donnell</title>
		<link>http://durandus.com/phaedrus/2006/08/29/on-the-classroom/#comment-10782</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenny O'Donnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 00:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I do agree with many of the comments, and I feel that a boxed classroom may not be the best learning atmosphere, I feel that it will be a long, hard struggle to correct the situation in the general, public education classroom.  I believe that the hardest struggle is that people are generally likely to teach as they have been taught.  We've all been sat in that box and forced to sit still and be quiet so we think that is how learning should occur.

However, there are those different philosophies of education out there  that push the boundaries of the boxed educational norm.  Montessori schools learn at a student-led pace and they learn through discovery using all five sences instead of a classroom lecture setting.  A typical constructivist classroom is also guided by the student instead of the teacher.  Do these children learn better than the typical public school setting?  I have only visited one Montessori school and I was amazed at what the young children knew, but was also concerned.  One child could recite and identify all of the bones in the body and all of the countries on a map, but he could not read on grade level.  The teacher quickly told us that he was more interested in Science and Geography and was not as interested in Literature and Reading.  Will we need to redesign what we feel is important for students to learn by letting them make that decision instead of state tests?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I do agree with many of the comments, and I feel that a boxed classroom may not be the best learning atmosphere, I feel that it will be a long, hard struggle to correct the situation in the general, public education classroom.  I believe that the hardest struggle is that people are generally likely to teach as they have been taught.  We&#8217;ve all been sat in that box and forced to sit still and be quiet so we think that is how learning should occur.</p>
<p>However, there are those different philosophies of education out there  that push the boundaries of the boxed educational norm.  Montessori schools learn at a student-led pace and they learn through discovery using all five sences instead of a classroom lecture setting.  A typical constructivist classroom is also guided by the student instead of the teacher.  Do these children learn better than the typical public school setting?  I have only visited one Montessori school and I was amazed at what the young children knew, but was also concerned.  One child could recite and identify all of the bones in the body and all of the countries on a map, but he could not read on grade level.  The teacher quickly told us that he was more interested in Science and Geography and was not as interested in Literature and Reading.  Will we need to redesign what we feel is important for students to learn by letting them make that decision instead of state tests?</p>
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		<title>By: Diana Jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diana Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 00:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The box we call the classroom is truly out of control.  We can not help students learn due to the increased amount of requirements for students.  They can't take the time to learn in the classroom and guide themselves through the learning process.  Time is a hot commodity in the classroom.  We have a set schedule for spelling, reading, math, etc and no extra time allotted.  Yet, we believe this will allow our students to gain the knowledge needed to be self efficient adults.  We do not encourage communication enough in the classroom.  To be completely honest, we have no time for communication.  All the time in the classroom is spent teaching.  I am not agreeing with this style and hope that in the future we can move the classroom out of the small box we've placed it in.  It was not until Instructional Design that I realized how we use technology in the classroom.  It's amazing how many forms of technology that we overlook on a daily basis.  In my opinion, what we call the classroom today (and education) is not good enough.  We are not seeing our students improve and if we do see some change it is small.  I would love to turn my students loose in a classroom free to discover new ideas and knowledge.  That is the one memory I have from grade school.  I had a teacher that turned us loose in science class.  I learned so much and had fun in the process.  How can one move out of the box when pressure is placed to "hammer the content?"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The box we call the classroom is truly out of control.  We can not help students learn due to the increased amount of requirements for students.  They can&#8217;t take the time to learn in the classroom and guide themselves through the learning process.  Time is a hot commodity in the classroom.  We have a set schedule for spelling, reading, math, etc and no extra time allotted.  Yet, we believe this will allow our students to gain the knowledge needed to be self efficient adults.  We do not encourage communication enough in the classroom.  To be completely honest, we have no time for communication.  All the time in the classroom is spent teaching.  I am not agreeing with this style and hope that in the future we can move the classroom out of the small box we&#8217;ve placed it in.  It was not until Instructional Design that I realized how we use technology in the classroom.  It&#8217;s amazing how many forms of technology that we overlook on a daily basis.  In my opinion, what we call the classroom today (and education) is not good enough.  We are not seeing our students improve and if we do see some change it is small.  I would love to turn my students loose in a classroom free to discover new ideas and knowledge.  That is the one memory I have from grade school.  I had a teacher that turned us loose in science class.  I learned so much and had fun in the process.  How can one move out of the box when pressure is placed to &#8220;hammer the content?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 00:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I felt like a novice skier looking down the expert slope.  Now it seems more like the bunny slope.  I am still getting used to all this new stuff.

My classroom, I guess, is different than the majority of classes where I work.  I don't have to worry about covering core content and program of studies for CATS testing.  I teach Spanish, which is not part of CATS.  I do teach and the students learn.  I don't have to worry about getting through a certain amount of material.  The students in my class have many opportunities to work together (partners, small groups, large groups, and even entire class).  They learn the language and interact with other students at the same time.  We also do a lot of hands-on activities, which the students love.  This way they can learn about the culture in a fun way and not just by reading about it or me lecturing to them.  Sure, there are plenty of times when they are required to takes notes and listen, but they get to interact as well.  When learning a foreign language, this is very important.  They can help each other with learning.  I love to use technology in my classroom.  Until this year, technology was not really an option for me because I had very little access to it.  Now, I am in a new school district and have my own projector in my room (it is attached to the ceiling).  I can do all sorts of powerpoints with my students (presentations to class and student made).  I can also use it to play review games such as jeopardy.  The students really get into this.  They actually seem to study more because they have a better chance of winning.  I have a lot of athletes in my classes and they are very competitive.  Something I haven't done in the past, but would like to do sometime this year, is take my students on a walk around school grounds.  We can go over vocabulary and I could tell them what different things are in Spanish.  I was thinking that they could do a nature/outdoors spanish picture dictionary using the objects and things found outside and in nature.  This would get them out of the classroom and they wouldn't feel so confined.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I felt like a novice skier looking down the expert slope.  Now it seems more like the bunny slope.  I am still getting used to all this new stuff.</p>
<p>My classroom, I guess, is different than the majority of classes where I work.  I don&#8217;t have to worry about covering core content and program of studies for CATS testing.  I teach Spanish, which is not part of CATS.  I do teach and the students learn.  I don&#8217;t have to worry about getting through a certain amount of material.  The students in my class have many opportunities to work together (partners, small groups, large groups, and even entire class).  They learn the language and interact with other students at the same time.  We also do a lot of hands-on activities, which the students love.  This way they can learn about the culture in a fun way and not just by reading about it or me lecturing to them.  Sure, there are plenty of times when they are required to takes notes and listen, but they get to interact as well.  When learning a foreign language, this is very important.  They can help each other with learning.  I love to use technology in my classroom.  Until this year, technology was not really an option for me because I had very little access to it.  Now, I am in a new school district and have my own projector in my room (it is attached to the ceiling).  I can do all sorts of powerpoints with my students (presentations to class and student made).  I can also use it to play review games such as jeopardy.  The students really get into this.  They actually seem to study more because they have a better chance of winning.  I have a lot of athletes in my classes and they are very competitive.  Something I haven&#8217;t done in the past, but would like to do sometime this year, is take my students on a walk around school grounds.  We can go over vocabulary and I could tell them what different things are in Spanish.  I was thinking that they could do a nature/outdoors spanish picture dictionary using the objects and things found outside and in nature.  This would get them out of the classroom and they wouldn&#8217;t feel so confined.</p>
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		<title>By: Ashley Pelfrey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ashley Pelfrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Until being asked to really consider these questions, I had never really thought about how much classroom management affects learning or learning environments in general. Like others have mentioned, I feel like other classmates and the instructors of online courses are much more approachable than those in a traditional classroom. It is amazing to me how much I have learned without someone standing in front of me, telling me exactly what to write. These issues have made me lok back on my experiences in school and my own teaching styles. 

When I work on assignments for this class, I am often distracted by the television, a ringing telephone, or a crying child, but still I manage to learn. For a person who thrives on structure and calmness, this is a big step. I am becoming a supporter of inquiry learning that is based on individual needs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Until being asked to really consider these questions, I had never really thought about how much classroom management affects learning or learning environments in general. Like others have mentioned, I feel like other classmates and the instructors of online courses are much more approachable than those in a traditional classroom. It is amazing to me how much I have learned without someone standing in front of me, telling me exactly what to write. These issues have made me lok back on my experiences in school and my own teaching styles. </p>
<p>When I work on assignments for this class, I am often distracted by the television, a ringing telephone, or a crying child, but still I manage to learn. For a person who thrives on structure and calmness, this is a big step. I am becoming a supporter of inquiry learning that is based on individual needs.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Freeman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Freeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never could stand my classes where I just had to sit and listen.  After awhile I would always tune the teacher out.  When I began teaching first grade I tried to keep my likes and dislikes from school in mind.  There are some teachers who cannot stand any noise in their rooms, but it doesn't bother me.  I get my kids up, moving and involved.  They get choices on how they do assignments and they get choices and input on assessments. I think that it is really important to get the students involved in learning inside the classroom so it doesn't end there.  If students are engaged and motivated then learning will continue outside of the classroom because the students are interested.  I do not think that education minimize engagement, but I often feel like I am an "outcast" when I don't make my kids sit their like little soldiers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never could stand my classes where I just had to sit and listen.  After awhile I would always tune the teacher out.  When I began teaching first grade I tried to keep my likes and dislikes from school in mind.  There are some teachers who cannot stand any noise in their rooms, but it doesn&#8217;t bother me.  I get my kids up, moving and involved.  They get choices on how they do assignments and they get choices and input on assessments. I think that it is really important to get the students involved in learning inside the classroom so it doesn&#8217;t end there.  If students are engaged and motivated then learning will continue outside of the classroom because the students are interested.  I do not think that education minimize engagement, but I often feel like I am an &#8220;outcast&#8221; when I don&#8217;t make my kids sit their like little soldiers.</p>
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